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Riverside Info: Recent Posts http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Discussion Forum for Riverside Illinois en Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:23:30 +0000 anonymous on "Signs of the times..." http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/signs-of-the-times-1/page/22#post-12278 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:04:55 +0000 anonymous 12278@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ The headline says it all. <a href="http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/11/government-workers-feel-no-pain/" rel="nofollow">http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/11/government-workers-feel-no-pain/</a> TS on "Open Letter to D96 Board of Education" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/open-letter-to-d96-board-of-education/page/6#post-12277 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:45:28 +0000 TS 12277@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ We, the taxpayers, know what the real problem is. The question is will the administration, especially the School Board, be willing to address it. The problem is the salary structure and pension plan. When salaries and benefits are approximately 79% of the budget, reducing spending on paper, natural gas and the other items mentioned is not enough to make up the budget shortfall. If the administration thinks a tax referendum is going to pass, they are living in a dream world. We, the taxpayers, will not and cannot, continue to fund salaries and pensions that are unsustainable. Enough is enough. ChrisHajer on "Open Letter to D96 Board of Education" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/open-letter-to-d96-board-of-education/page/5#post-12276 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:04:58 +0000 ChrisHajer 12276@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ RB chief outlines spending cuts, fees hikes No recommendation to cut full-time teachers <a href="http://www.rblandmark.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=5935" rel="nofollow">http://www.rblandmark.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=5935</a> Proposals could save $750K of an estimated $2.3M deficit for next year. anonymous on "Signs of the times..." http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/signs-of-the-times-1/page/22#post-12275 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:52:32 +0000 anonymous 12275@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <a href="http://www.rblandmark.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=5934" rel="nofollow">www.rblandmark.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=5934</a> Whole departments are being cut at Triton, and they may have to close their doors after the 2011 school year. It makes what has been going on at D96 and D208 all that more amazing. Get with it and stop the worthless spending and figure out how to get by with less. No more taxes, no more salary increases. Nancy Jensen, can you hear us? spatny on "Signs of the times..." http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/signs-of-the-times-1/page/22#post-12274 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:51:33 +0000 spatny 12274@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Economy 'Far too Close' to Double Dip: Roubini CNBC.com | March 10, 2010 | 05:07 AM EST Poor economic data in the US coupled with Europe's debt crisis are contributing to an increase of the risk of the US economy going through a double-dip recession, Nouriel Roubini, who predicted the 2007 financial crisis, wrote in a research paper. At best, the US economy is headed for a U-shaped recovery this year, Roubini said. That has been his prediction in recent months. Can't get the link to work so here is the rest: <blockquote></blockquote> The US faces challenges in the second half, especially as fiscal stimulus measures fade, and "appears far too close to the tipping point of a double-dip recession," he said. The euro zone is also facing an increased risk of a double-dip fall, because of its ongoing debt crisis, he wrote. Even if the euro zone does not suffer a double dip, growth in demand will be even more limited and this will hurt the United States' potential for export growth, according to Roubini's paper. The Roubini Global Economics benchmark scenario puts the risk of a double dip at 20 percent, while a slow, protracted, U-shaped recovery is given the highest probability of 60 percent. But since the end of February new macroeconomic data from the US have come out and "they have been almost uniformly poor, if not outright awful," Roubini wrote. Consumer confidence has "tanked", new home sales are "collapsing," existing home sales are also falling sharply, as is construction activity, while initial jobless claims remain "stubbornly high" above the 400,000 mark, he said. Despite the fact that the growth in gross domestic product (GDP) was revised upwards to an annual rate of 5.9 percent in the fourth quarter, most of it, around 3.9 percent, was due to inventories, Roubini noted. Final sales grew at a 1.9 percent rate in the fourth quarter, while in the third quarter that growth was only at a rate of 1.7 percent, he said. "So, at the time of maximum policy stimulus (second-half of 2009), final sales were growing only at a pathetic 1.8 percent average rate," Roubini explained. <blockquote></blockquote> anonymous on "Your 5th grader needs his own Laptop" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/your-5th-grader-needs-his-own-laptop/page/5#post-12273 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:20:02 +0000 anonymous 12273@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ I love this. Now, if only the teachers in district 96 will see this and understand that it should apply to all students, including our children. anonymous on "Signs of the times..." http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/signs-of-the-times-1/page/22#post-12272 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:15:20 +0000 anonymous 12272@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ To paraphrase the Clinton administration---It's the pensions, stupid. <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-pensions0309-20100308,0,7698769.story" rel="nofollow">www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-pensions0309-20100308,0,7698769.story</a> Kelly on "Your 5th grader needs his own Laptop" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/your-5th-grader-needs-his-own-laptop/page/5#post-12271 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:06:34 +0000 Kelly 12271@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Thanks Tom - I love the clip and agree 100% that computers are a huge distraction especially in a classroom. The kids that are learning without the laptops actually have the advantage. TomJacobs on "Your 5th grader needs his own Laptop" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/your-5th-grader-needs-his-own-laptop/page/5#post-12270 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:12:55 +0000 TomJacobs 12270@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5w-7IpI0fI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5w-7IpI0fI</a> You've got to see this. CuriousResident on "Riverside Springs Ahead Community Work Day" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/riverside-springs-ahead-community-work-day#post-12269 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:40:14 +0000 CuriousResident 12269@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Nice press - <a href="http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/riverside/topstories/x1918409384/Village-getting-in-spring-spirit-with-planter-project">Village getting in spring spirit with planter project</a> This and the bike plan are exactly the kinds of things that add significant value to our village for very low costs! raymond on "Your 5th grader needs his own Laptop" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/your-5th-grader-needs-his-own-laptop/page/5#post-12268 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:07:06 +0000 raymond 12268@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ The most selective universities in the country think that laptops (in the classroom) are a distraction, something less than productive, showing again that you should not do something just 'cause you CAN do something. The article also shows that you (education administrators) have to be, at a minimum, judicious in using this tool. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/08/AR2010030804915.html?wpisrc=nl_tech" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/08/AR2010030804915.html?wpisrc=nl_tech</a> <blockquote>Wide Web of diversions gets laptops evicted from lecture halls By Daniel de Vise Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, March 9, 2010 ... Cole has banned laptops from his classes, compelling students to take notes the way their parents did: on paper. A generation ago, academia embraced the laptop as the most welcome classroom innovation since the ballpoint pen. But during the past decade, it has evolved into a powerful distraction. Wireless Internet connections tempt students away from note-typing to e-mail, blogs, YouTube videos, sports scores, even online gaming -- all the diversions of a home computer beamed into the classroom to compete with the professor for the student's attention. "This is like putting on every student's desk, when you walk into class, five different magazines, several television shows, some shopping opportunities and a phone, and saying, 'Look, if your mind wanders, feel free to pick any of these up and go with it,' " Cole said. Professors have banned laptops from their classrooms at George Washington University, American University, the College of William and Mary and the University of Virginia, among many others. Last month, a physics professor at the University of Oklahoma poured liquid nitrogen onto a laptop and then shattered it on the floor, a warning to the digitally distracted. A student -- of course -- managed to capture the staged theatrics on video and drew a million hits on YouTube. ... </blockquote> anonymous on "ISAT Testing" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/isat-testing#post-12267 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:24:10 +0000 anonymous 12267@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ The students do stress over the ISAT's because the teachers do. In order for the students to test well, the teachers need to chill. ChrisHajer on "ISAT Testing" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/isat-testing#post-12265 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:34:40 +0000 ChrisHajer 12265@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Schools stress over ISAT, hope students don't: <a href="http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/03/schools-stress-over-isat-hope-students-dont.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/03/schools-stress-over-isat-hope-students-dont.html</a> Really interesting summary of all the considerations that go into ISAT testing in elementary schools. spatny on "What Can We Do to Protect Riverside Home Values?" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/what-can-we-do-to-protect-riverside-home-values/page/3#post-12264 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:51:29 +0000 spatny 12264@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ We will have a VAT - as do most developed countries. Of course it will be a Bolshevik plot to some... ChrisHajer on "Open Letter to D96 Board of Education" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/open-letter-to-d96-board-of-education/page/5#post-12263 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:53:49 +0000 ChrisHajer 12263@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Lemont District 113A cuts 42 teacher positions, 12 paraprofessional/secretary positions and four administrators: <a href="http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/lemont/news/education/x1775166521/Cuts-still-coming-at-School-District-113A" rel="nofollow">http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/lemont/news/education/x1775166521/Cuts-still-coming-at-School-District-113A</a> and "RBHS board meeting to consider layoffs" to help reduce a $2M budget deficit: <a href="http://www.rblandmark.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=5910" rel="nofollow">http://www.rblandmark.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=5910</a> ChrisHajer on "What Can We Do to Protect Riverside Home Values?" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/what-can-we-do-to-protect-riverside-home-values/page/3#post-12262 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:54:18 +0000 ChrisHajer 12262@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ There was an interesting column in Newsweek last week entitled "Defusing the Debt Bomb, It can be done, here's how" by Fareed Zakaria: <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/234277" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/234277</a> <ol> <li>Adopt a VAT and cut income tax rates somewhat to compensate (eliminate income taxes for those earning less than $100K/yr [90% of households] and cut the top tax rate to 25%)</li> <li>End subsidies for home ownership, healthcare and agriculture</li> <li>Make sensible changes to entitlements (raise retirement age, tie increases in benefits to rises in inflation, not wages)</li> </ol> There are a lot more details in the actual column, and as always the comments are pretty good (well, some of them are.) I just looked and there is a blog/forum with columns as well. Confusing. spatny on "What Can We Do to Protect Riverside Home Values?" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/what-can-we-do-to-protect-riverside-home-values/page/3#post-12261 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:15:17 +0000 spatny 12261@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Paul Krugman wrote: <blockquote>It’s crucial to realize that the trillion dollars’ worth of goods and services we could have produced this year, but won’t, is a loss we’ll never make up. And that doesn’t count the suffering and damage to our future inflicted by the non-monetary costs of mass long-term unemployment. And yet, the prevailing sentiment in Washington and other centers of power is that we’ve done enough, and that it’s time to start pulling back — to normalize monetary policy, tighten our fiscal belts. Policymakers are congratulating themselves for avoiding total collapse, when they should be berating themselves for failing to engineer recovery. It’s tragic.</blockquote> Actually, it's worse than tragic. It will be, in our lifetimes and probaly in the lifetimes of those over forty, irreversible. Milton Friedman and Alan Greenspan and the the pols that abetted their rise to preeminence in fiscal and monetary policy have seen to that. Think about that as you entertain your kids in the back seat with dual DVD players... more technology invented here but never manufactured here. spatny on "What Can We Do to Protect Riverside Home Values?" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/what-can-we-do-to-protect-riverside-home-values/page/3#post-12260 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:20:34 +0000 spatny 12260@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Jan. 23rd reporting - Illinois unemployment at 10.1% - up 1.3% from a year ago. Home price index down 8.5% from a year earlier. Commercial real estate is now on the burner - a lot of loans will reset in the 2nd quarter. I saw Alexi G. talking about his family's bank yesterday and how badly they have been hit by this. Small community lenders that did biz loans for strip malls and office space will be crunched as the number of vacancies multiplies. Bad Biz kills the demand for houses and depresses prices. I know that you know all this, but it is amazing to met to see how the have/have not gap is widening. I'm tired of hearing that old saw about "it's small businesses that create jobs." Not entirely. I think it's larger businesses that place orders with myriad small(er) companies to make parts that in turn needed nearby delivery companies and lunchrooms and stores and office space for other small businesses that create jobs. I read this today in one of my old car mags: Fordism was a system of volume production and volume consumption. Fordism combined mass production - building large volumes of cars - with mass consumption - making the price inexpensive so more could afford them - to produce economic growth and widespread material advancement for all. Henry did this by introducing the Model T, a simple yet high quality car with such a low price that it was affordable to a broad segment of the population.It sold in large volumes which kept the price down. Then Ford went further, utilizing new manufacturing techniques which reduced costs even further and helped to bring the price even lower. He was thus able to pay his workers a decent wage and thus made consumers out of them, increasing the demand for his car. Soon workers on the factory floor could buy one of the cars they made, and homes, and all kinds of consumer goods and send their kids to school. Well we are still getting cheap (and cheaper_ goods to buy, but they aren't made here, so there are not the number of good manufacturing jobs to support better wages and lifestyle. And what we have to spend is going overseas. We are left selling each other insurance and delivering pizzas. People want more but can't earn the dough to support what they already have, and many are being dragged down by upkeep and taxes. Of course, they willingly signed on for the debt because "real estate always goes up" and things were always going to get better. The Model T was an entry level car, simple, inexpensive, affordable. It was the all-time best seller. The only car to challenge that was the VW, which was much the same. Now, companies like Hyundai and Kia produce very slick cars that are worlds apart from the above, but still cheaper than most of the others. Obviously they learned something we didn't. spatny on "What Can We Do to Protect Riverside Home Values?" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/what-can-we-do-to-protect-riverside-home-values/page/3#post-12259 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:10:51 +0000 spatny 12259@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Not much. News is bad on new home sales too. <blockquote>The number of buyers who agreed to purchase previously occupied homes fell sharply in January, a sign that demand for housing is sinking this winter, especially after stormy weather hit much of the country. The National Association of Realtors says its seasonally adjusted index of sales agreements fell 7.6 percent from December to a January reading of 90.4. It was the lowest reading since last April. Economists surveyed by Thomson Reuters had expected the index would rise to 97.6. The index is considered a barometer for future sales because typically there is a one- to two- month lag between a signed sales contract and a completed deal. A reading of 100 is equal to the average level of sales activity in 2001, when the index started.</blockquote> anonymous on "Signs of the times..." http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/signs-of-the-times-1/page/22#post-12258 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:02:55 +0000 anonymous 12258@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <a href="http://www.rblandmark.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=5910" rel="nofollow">www.rblandmark.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=5910</a>" anonymous on "Open Letter to D96 Board of Education" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/open-letter-to-d96-board-of-education/page/5#post-12257 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:19:52 +0000 anonymous 12257@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ The current school board does not represent the will of the people when they fritter away our money via outlandish salaries for the superintendent, as one major example. We need people on all school boards, Triton included, who are responsible with our resources. PAR4 on "Open Letter to D96 Board of Education" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/open-letter-to-d96-board-of-education/page/5#post-12256 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:00:43 +0000 PAR4 12256@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ With the hostility/pressure many of them are feeling from the community at large (whether deserved or not), I think that a few of the current board members would happily resign their positon if given the opportunity. anonymous on "Open Letter to D96 Board of Education" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/open-letter-to-d96-board-of-education/page/5#post-12255 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:28:45 +0000 anonymous 12255@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Can we impeach them? ChrisHajer on "Illinois is Broke" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/illinois-is-broke/page/2#post-12254 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:50:09 +0000 ChrisHajer 12254@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ This is an encouraging article From Crain's Greg Hinz about the IMRF pension fund: <a href="http://bit.ly/dwkBy0" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/dwkBy0</a> bensells on "Riverside Springs Ahead Community Work Day" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/riverside-springs-ahead-community-work-day#post-12253 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:34:10 +0000 bensells 12253@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Terri asked that I provide the following amended plant list. It specifies the particular plants we are looking for via donations: Stella D'Oro Daylily Purple Coneflower Feather Reed Grass Blackeyed Susan Fountain Grass Husker Red Penstemon Prairie Drop Seed Grass Autumn Joy Sedum Solomon's Seal Catmint Liatris Christmas Fern Threadleaf Coreopsis Heliopsis Summer Sun Liriope Lilyturf We are already receiving donations of both plants and dollars, as well as folks wanting to volunteer. But it's a big project, so please keep them coming! Tell your friends -- we need all of the help we can get! Thank you, Ben <a href="mailto:bsells@riverside.il.us">bsells@riverside.il.us</a> (708) 442-2670 spatny on "Open Letter to D96 Board of Education" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/open-letter-to-d96-board-of-education/page/5#post-12252 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:41:07 +0000 spatny 12252@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Good article, Chris. If you think we pay more for a supe at D96 than the Chicago school system does it really shows how whacko this Board is. Hubermann has to deal with hundreds of schools and a $6 Billion dollar budget and is paid less than we pay to deal with five elementary and a middle school? Every single one of them ought to get dumped. anonymous on "Open Letter to D96 Board of Education" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/open-letter-to-d96-board-of-education/page/5#post-12251 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:12:06 +0000 anonymous 12251@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ A part of the reason that the state of Illinois is in such bad shape. Read the comments. One suggestion is to cut the salaries of the administrators in half. Sounds good to me. How about you, school board? Desperate times call for desperate measures. mr on "Crime in Riverside" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/crime-in-riverside#post-12250 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:10:42 +0000 mr 12250@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ I think the Riverside police, as well as the police in nieghboring communities do excellent work. They work together when appropriate, and they do an excellent job for all of us. ChrisHajer on "Open Letter to D96 Board of Education" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/open-letter-to-d96-board-of-education/page/5#post-12249 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:32:32 +0000 ChrisHajer 12249@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ This in the news today: "Illinois schools chiefs' salaries keep supersizing" <a href="http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/03/illinois-schools-chiefs-salaries-keep-supersizing.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/03/illinois-schools-chiefs-salaries-keep-supersizing.html</a> ChrisHajer on "A great new video on the Arcade Mural Project..." http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/a-great-new-video-on-the-arcade-mural-project#post-12248 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:06:32 +0000 ChrisHajer 12248@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Really well done. Thanks Bob and Sally for putting this online. DKing on "Crime in Riverside" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/crime-in-riverside#post-12247 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:46:27 +0000 DKing 12247@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Having recently moved into Riverside I was suprised to see the story of the 2 subjects charged with kidnapping along with their relative who lives in Riverside. I thank the Riverside Police Department for investigating it so quickly and arresting all of the parties involved. I know that they are short staffed and only have 1 detective also. Nice work to all involved at the police department. spatny on "What Can We Do to Protect Riverside Home Values?" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/what-can-we-do-to-protect-riverside-home-values/page/3#post-12246 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:47:20 +0000 spatny 12246@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ 24% of the mortgages in the U.S. are "upside-down." So prices will continue to sink - probably another 10-15%. The charts and Case-Schiller show that. Unemployment, a traditionally lagging indicator of the economy is probably still rising. Trustee Scully suggested that Riverside probably has at least 10% unemployment or underemployment. Here's an interesting map that shows how unemployment has risen. Click on it and watch... <a href="http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html" rel="nofollow">http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html</a> bensells on "Riverside Springs Ahead Community Work Day" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/riverside-springs-ahead-community-work-day#post-12245 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:18:08 +0000 bensells 12245@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ CuriousResident, Thank you. I share your excitment! We are working with the Village to get the plan, and the list of needed plants, posted on the Village website. I will notify everyone here when that happens. Meanwhile, you can see more details of what Terri presented last night at: <a href="http://www.riverside.il.us/vertical/Sites/%7BFF0B0056-4ACF-4890-985A-29B8374E9BEE%7D/uploads/%7B6D6DD635-DAAB-49EB-9788-03259DDCCD9B%7D.PDF" rel="nofollow">http://www.riverside.il.us/vertical/Sites/%7BFF0B0056-4ACF-4890-985A-29B8374E9BEE%7D/uploads/%7B6D6DD635-DAAB-49EB-9788-03259DDCCD9B%7D.PDF</a> Starting at page 31. Ben CuriousResident on "Riverside Springs Ahead Community Work Day" http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/riverside-springs-ahead-community-work-day#post-12244 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:37:58 +0000 CuriousResident 12244@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Exciting! Is there somewhere that the plan can be viewed? anonymous on "A great new video on the Arcade Mural Project..." http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/a-great-new-video-on-the-arcade-mural-project#post-12243 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:12:21 +0000 anonymous 12243@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Bravo. Thanks for posting this, spatny.