http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ Discussion Forum for Riverside Illinois en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:14:45 +0000 http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/rbhs-referendum-forum#post-14217 Tue, 22 Mar 2011 00:20:26 +0000 Innocent Bystander 14217@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <p>The info in the youtube video is very disturbing. What's going on with it? Any investigations? </p> <p>Did anyone read the Chicago Tribune yesterday? <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/education/ct-met-wealthy-districts-pinched-032120110320,0,7119145.story"> </p> <p>Sounds like RB isn't the only school district trying to pass a tax increase. Scroll down to read the comments. You'd think they were written about RB.</a> </p> http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/rbhs-referendum-forum#post-14201 Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:54:21 +0000 the otherside 14201@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <p>Welcome to the RBHS Taxpayers Channel:</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/RBHStaxpayers?feature=mhum" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/RBHStaxpayers?feature=mhum</a> </p> http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/running-the-numbers-dist-96#post-13276 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:42:36 +0000 spatny 13276@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <p>I culled these numbers from the Dist. 96 Salary Compensation Report filed with the state for 2009-10 school year. These are total numbers of what these people costincl. salaries, stipends, pension contributions, Health/Dental Ins., mileage allowances, etc.</p> <p>Superintendent - $301,000., Hauser Principal - $151,000., Middle School (Hauser) Asst. Principal - $75,000., Central Principal - $155,000., Dist. Dir. of Special Ed - $151,000., etc.</p> <p>And then the school board cuts the sub teachers pay $5. a day? </p> http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/school-salaries/page/2#post-13163 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:11:47 +0000 anonymous 13163@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <p>There are very few small businesses anymore.....and even fewer independent drug and food stores. Even Jewel, owned by giant Albertson's is having a hard time competing with the mega-Target and Walmart stores.</p> <p>The education system is going to be the next major industry to crash. Tuition at private colleges are through the roof, and followed closely by the public colleges and universities. Only the very wealthy or union members will be able to afford send their kids. </p> <p>The public schools need the private schools to be viable for without them, the public schools would be bursting at the seams. This is really a mess. All I know is that years ago, when I heard that the U.S. was on its way to becoming a 'service' country, rather than manufacturing, the young anonymous thought it didn't sound too good for our country. Sadly, I was right. We gotta start making stuff. And fast. </p> http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/school-salaries/page/2#post-13162 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:07:39 +0000 spatny 13162@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <p>I saw that and it seems reasonable. Of course, it will just mean a legal morass to try and unwind deals, contracts and the like that have already been granted. So the lawyers will eat up the savings... </p> <p>One thing that is really troubling is that some people think that things will - sooner rather than later - revert to the upward spiral in wages and living conditions. That things automatically will get better. If you are manufacturing products today the work goes where the wages are the lowest. We used to buy Japanese goods that were made in Japan, now they are often screwed together in other places. German cars are often made in countries further east, etc. We have more people working at lower wages than ever before in my lifetime. Small businesses like pharmacies and food stores are now forced to compete with larger chains. The people that built the houses in Riverside - many of them - wouldn't be able to work and afford to do that in their former jobs today. But kids keep coming and they need better, more expensive schooling. It's going to break the bank for sure.</p> <p>And kids in high school better understand that they are no longer competing for places in schools with just the kids from LT or other U.S. high schools, but with kids from India and China and other countries. And then if/when they do graduate, the competition is much tougher for the best jobs. The internet exports all manner of knowledge worldwide. Directed economies like China that have become the manufacturer to the world have great advantages for moving into a field and "owning" it. There are cities where they just manufacture men's ties - from Walmart to Sulka - they are all made there. We have nothing like that to employ and sustain such industries. We innovate but then export the more lasting part of the cycle, the manufacturing. Ten guys or a hundred write a program, but then it is sold to others to use to create sustaining jobs, and we have to invent something new. This has been going on for a long time now and it's not a pretty picture. </p> http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/school-salaries/page/2#post-13161 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:58:36 +0000 spatny 13161@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <p>I saw that and it seems reasonable. Of course, it will just mean a legal morass to try and unwind deals, contracts and the like that have already been granted. So the lawyers will eat up the savings... </p> <p>One thing that is really troubling is that some people think that things will - sooner rather than later - revert to the upward spiral in wages and living conditions. That things automatically will get better. If you are manufacturing products today the work goes where the wages are the lowest. We used to buy Japanese goods that were made in Japan, now they are often screwed together in other places. German cars are often made in countries further east, etc. We have more people working at lower wages than ever before in my lifetime. Small businesses like pharmacies and food stores are now forced to compete with larger chains. The people that built the houses in Riverside - many of them - wouldn't be able to work and afford to do that in their former jobs today. But kids keep coming andthey eed better, more expensive schooling. It's going to break the bank for sure. </p> http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/school-salaries/page/2#post-13160 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:50:45 +0000 mr 13160@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <p>Lawyers and other professionals who bill high fees only get them if the customer deems the cost worth the product. I have heard that working in a law firm is brutal - probably a minimum work week of 60 hours. You not only have to perform at a high technical level, you have to sell your product. The problem taxpayers have with the public sector is that they are a monopoly. They don't compete for customers and infact they are often unresponsive to their customers. Neither of RB's two school districts have acknowledged the economic times. They have displayed arrogance when the public brings up the fact that the salary increases and benefits of adminisrators and other staff is out of line with the private sector.</p> <p>I believe that I recently read somewhere that increases on one school district were tied to increases in the districts revenues. Perhaps we need something like that too. </p> http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/school-salaries/page/2#post-13159 Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:54:44 +0000 spatny 13159@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <p>Of course, he works many more days than 180, and there are lawyers and other professionals that bill much more per hour than he gets . And D96 is one of the very few districts that has a large and growing surplus, so probably the answer to your question depends on your own viewpoint. The problem is that Cook County is no longer the mighyt manufacturing machine it once was, and the private sector middle class is being pressed farther than ever. I was just trying to make the point that the disparity between the haves and have nots, the top and the bottom, is growing wider, and that taking $5 a day from the subs' meager pay just because there are more teachers unemployed seems ill conceived. The actions of the present Admin and School Board seem totally out of touch with the reality of today's economics and elemental fairness. </p> http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/school-salaries#post-13158 Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:28:01 +0000 anonymous 13158@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <p>$1650.00 per day is obscene.</p> <p>Are we getting our money's worth? </p> http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic/school-salaries#post-13157 Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:54:59 +0000 spatny 13157@http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/ <p>So at RB a beginning teacher is getting $287. a day, plus the other benefits. An "internal sub" would get $150 a day for five periods, $210 for seven periods. But the subs at D96 who get no benefits whatsoever were reduced from $100. to $95, while the Admin people get astronomic pay. Why did the D96 Board chisel five bucks a day from those already underpaid subs, when they pay the Superintendent over $300K with benefits? If you divide his pay by 180 he makes over $1650 a day. </p>