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  1. Catherine
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    There is a thing called a "tavern lounge with accessory live entertainment", apparently, that will be permitted in the core of the CBD. Sounds like a party. Wonder what it means?

    Come and find out.

    Posted Friday Apr 17, 2009 15:51 #
  2. JohnM
    Member

    I'm gooing to go out on a limb here and say they're going to let Calvetti's have some live entertainment.

    Posted Friday Apr 17, 2009 15:55 #
  3. Catherine
    Member

    Hm. They serve food there, so that is a "tavern" under the ordinances. Not a "tavern lounge."

    Posted Friday Apr 17, 2009 15:59 #
  4. JohnM
    Member

    Per the Zoning Ordinance, at 10-11-3:

    TAVERN/LOUNGE: An establishment primarily involved in the sale of alcohol for consumption by patrons on the premises. This use may include accessory food sales and/or indoor recreation, but excludes "live entertainment", as defined herein

    Posted Friday Apr 17, 2009 16:02 #
  5. Catherine
    Member

    Interesting since the Board recently said that no establishments that served liquor without food would be legal in Riverside, and that is exactly what this language permits.

    Posted Friday Apr 17, 2009 16:06 #
  6. JohnM
    Member

    Yes and no. The code permits tavern/lounges as a special use in the retail core of the CBD. However, if someone seeks to open up an establishment under the special use provision of the code, the Board has final approval, and they could deny a license. So, when they said that they wouldn't allow taverns without food, I think this is the approach they took--the code might permit it, in theory, but the Board won't allow it.

    Posted Friday Apr 17, 2009 16:17 #
  7. Catherine
    Member

    I just wrote to the village president seeking clarification.

    It is not permitted at all in the B-1.

    Perhaps it slipped through some time ago in the cascade that was the B-2 retail core discussion. That would be an oversight from my sense of the recent Board discussion.

    Posted Friday Apr 17, 2009 16:25 #
  8. spatny
    Member

    So, that translates to: What if, say, I want to open a bar/restaurant in the VC. Can I do it, or is it at the whim of the Board, or rather the Village Pres., who is also the liquor commissioner? Would anyone come in and sign a lease and do a build out in that type of situation, one where you have to "earn your spurs" as we were told was the case now. Would someone go on the hook for beaucoup dollars on the promise that "we'll think about it." Normally you have a defined set of rules, do this, do that,, pay this much and you can operate. Stay clean and don't do this, that or the other and we can't interfere with you. Maybe this is one reason why businesses don't flock here?

    Posted Friday Apr 17, 2009 17:24 #
  9. Catherine
    Member

    Well, yes, I don't go for this special use thing either.

    But I do know you can open a restaurant that serves alcohol here.

    Posted Friday Apr 17, 2009 18:44 #
  10. spatny
    Member

    What I posted was essentially what our President said - "You come in, open up, start with beer and wine, and if you are a good boy "you earn your spurs" - his exact words. Who intheir right mind would invest what it will take to open the VC space on that system?

    Posted Friday Apr 17, 2009 18:47 #

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