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Brief Report from 9/10/07 Special Meeting

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  1. spatny
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    Eric - I called it a bagel, among other things. Not a waffle. Let me be clear. I believe the building is too large, too high, poorly designed, does a disservice to the Village, should never have been allowed to be built, etc. No ambiguity. I think it is a disaster. Others may love it. That is why we have horse races, and some horse races have been known to be fixed.

    Last night I asked what would be the total height of the building (tower) at the highest point but never heard an answer. No one seemed interested in answering that. Now I believe the Landmark says it will be 54 ft. A person who saw the drawings told me it is 55'4", I believe. We started out with, I believe, 38 ft. and three stories as the allowable limits, in the code that we paid so much for. I believe I bet Mr. Corbisiero a pizza that it would be over 50ft whem completed. I would like anchovies and baby clams, thin crust. From Villa Nova. No need to deliver, I'll pick it up.

    The elevator tower looks to be above 50' already. It is also made of cement block and visible from the street, sticking up above the right side of the main entrance of the building. That material is not allowed to be used where visible from the street so presumably it will be covered with something. Mr. Carraher correctly showed me the code where it is allowed as an "encroachment" to build such things above the allowable height limits.

    Mr. Cariello is correct that there is/was no variance issued for the alley property, which we sold for $15,000 to the developer, and which now has four stories above it that probably represents a million dollars in square footage at the price they are asking. There was no fourth floor variance for the Chmell property either, which now has a deck on it that is being offered as part of the square footage of the largest apartment. If a lender or buyer gets in some trouble with this later on, and sues the developer, I can envision the Village becoming embroiled, not withstanding the village attorney's opinion that it is OK. Pridence is just that.

    Ms. Rush: On the subject of pavers. Point of Order: Perhaps my earlier post was ambiguous. I have been to so many meetings lately that they seem to run together. I did not say that it was approved on the 11th. I meant to say that the Plan Commission did approve the Village attorney drafting an amendment for the use of pavers in the CBD at the meeting on 9/04/07, where it was discussed and voted on as item 6A. You and attorney Krone directed that process from the floor. Remember? In other words, you said, (words to the effect that) "This is what you can do, if you choose to do it," and they did. They said, approximately, "OK, we approve it, now draft it." There was a hurry to get it printed by last Friday, and you asked Attorney Krone if he could get it ready, and he said he could. Do you remember that? I was there and saw it happen. It was unanimous. Chairman Lesniak was not in attendance, but Doug Pollack was and voted for it. Then that was drafted and presented at the Board meeting on 9/10, the one where Trustee Smith went off on everyone that tried to speak against it. No one would even make a motion to accept it, I am told, so it was, in effect, turned down by the Board. I trust that clarifies this happenstance.

    Posted Wednesday Sep 12, 2007 15:22 #
  2. spatny
    Member

    I just saw the Camiros memo and attached elevation drawings. 55'4" is correct. The elevator tower, which is not shown even though it is visible from the street must be at 50' plus. My pizza should be family size.

    Posted Wednesday Sep 12, 2007 15:59 #
  3. ChrisHajer
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  4. Catherine
    Member

    Oh, I see. I do beg everyone's pardon for occasioning the confusion about which date it was when Planning approved the brick pavers that the Board voted down. Alas, one cannot be at all meetings, particularly those Special ones that are not on the Commissions calendar.

    I wonder when the Board will vote on the tower height variance? Well, I know many citizens are for tower, many against variances. My opinion, you ask? Vines, and plenty of them. I hear that Boston ivy does not damage mortar, or mortar-like substances.

    Posted Wednesday Sep 12, 2007 17:05 #
  5. spatny
    Member

    Preservation will review the site plan at their next meeting, then it will get the fireman's carry to the Board, where the tower will be annointed, and then nominations will be accepted for Woman of the Year in Riverside. How about an onion dome? Or just an onion bagel. Nothing will improve that pile - take a look at it from Akenside, from Forest, from in front of the library, from Quincy. It's an oversize, ill-sited eyesore. Basta. Where's my pizza.

    Posted Wednesday Sep 12, 2007 21:04 #
  6. ChrisHajer
    Member

    I think the top of the current corner of that building looks terrible, so I would like to see something nicer go up there. The building is already there: it's not going anywhere. Anything they can do to improve the look of it is OK with me. Ivy is OK too.

    Posted Wednesday Sep 12, 2007 21:56 #
  7. ChrisHajer
    Member

    St. Basil's Onion Dome

    Posted Wednesday Sep 12, 2007 21:59 #
  8. spatny
    Member

    If they had used some imagination people would be coming from all over the world to see it.

    Posted Wednesday Sep 12, 2007 22:24 #
  9. spatny
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    Posted Wednesday Sep 12, 2007 22:29 #
  10. spatny
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    The Hundertwasser House Vienna (German Hundertwasserhaus Wien) is an apartment house in Vienna, Austria, designed by Austrian artist Friedensreich Hundertwasser. This landmark of Vienna is located in the 3. district, Kegelgasse 34-38 / Löwengasse 41-43, at 48°12—²26—³N, 16°23—²39—³E.

    The house was built between 1983 and 1986 by architects Univ.-Prof. Joseph Krawina and Peter Pelikan. It features undulating floors ("an uneven floor is a melody to the feet"[citation needed]), a roof covered with earth and grass, and large trees growing from inside the rooms, with limbs extending from windows. Hundertwasser took no payment for the design of the house, declaring that it was worth it, to prevent something ugly from going up in its place.

    Within the house there are 52 apartments, four offices, 16 private terraces and three communal terraces, and a total of 250 trees and bushes. The Hundertwasser House is one of Austria's most visited buildings,[citation needed] and has become part of Austria's cultural heritage.

    Posted Wednesday Sep 12, 2007 22:34 #

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