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  1. spatny
    Member

    John: I was trying to illustrate the Village adminstrations to enlist consultants opinions seemingly for every question that comes before them. I was using an obvious situation - at least to those who live near those streets or who are at the Longcommon or Deleplaine crossings at the evening "rush hour". I didn't guarantee it would work, I just thought that people here in the village with some sense might beable to suggest ways to approach our problems without hiring outside consultants who will give you a lot of garbage and statistics with a fancy cover on it. If anyone thinks there is not a huge influx of transient cars entering at 31st/Akenside/Deleplaine and crossing the tracks at Longcommon or Deleplaine and then traveling at considerably above the posted speeds (and rolling most of the stop signs) along Akenside and Riverside Road or Deleplaine between say 4 and 6 PM I invite them to take a look. Many times the traffic passing down Riverside Road eastward at that time is bumper to bumper before going out at Miller or Lionel. ( It would be full in the opposite direction if it wasn't so difficult to turn left off Harlem or Miller was two-way.

    As to how much traffic there was in the '50s, when First Ave. was practically empty and did not connect to the as yet unbuilt Stevenson or the just opening Eisenhower, I don't see the relevance. I'm talking about today's problems, not what we had a half-century back. Surely someone will tell us "you can't do that" without three studies and a lot of legal fees. As for "perceived elitism" - well we have signs posted that say "No Fishing" in the Swan Pond but I don't see that stops anyone. We have a sound ordinance but I never see anyone get a ticket for driving around with the music blaring out of their car or truck. We have a lighting ordinance that prohibits lights being directed beyond a lot line, but there are parts of this town that are starting to look like Las Vegas. I saw the TOD consultants were advocating stop lights at the main crossing at Burlington and Longcommon - an intersection that (when combined with the rail traffic) couldn't be improved by all the engineers at NASA. And before I forget, if you try and cross Riverside Road from the bank to the town hall during the evening rush hour don't bet that any of those cars rolling through are going to stop for you in that crosswalk - sign or no sign, proximity to the Police Station or not. It's a bad bet I counsel you not to make.

    Out in California the Dept of Highways keeps putting up road signs with arrows pointing to Bolinas from Highway One, and they keep disappearing. At Pebble Beach there are gates and residents have openers, visitors pay - I think it is now ten dollars. Delivery vehicles are allowed in, and it all works. That might be the wrong way to go here, it is just a suggestion to see what people think. You know - stimulate the brain. Look at alternatives. Like plant more trees rather than hire consultants. Just my unsolicited view and my name is on it.

    Catherine: My FOIA request is for total expenditure by the Village per project, not by consultant. I shall post it here when it is finished. It's another attempt to know how the public's funds have been spent.

    I'd also like to make another point that the present "wish list" of enhanced services the taxpayers are being asked to pay for were never mentioned when the TIF money was being sought. So if the TIF had passed, then the latest increases in taxes for the buildings in that area would not be flowing to the general fund, bit would have been sequestered, making our situation even worse.

    Posted Monday Oct 13, 2008 22:42 #
  2. JohnM
    Member

    Spatny, I think I agree with most of your points. And, to be clear, my suggestion that the younger version of yourself would have been impacted by traffic restrictions was in jest--I understand that traffic patterns and car usage has changed immensely in the past fifty years.

    It also seems to me that your second paragraph, with its examples of unenforceable (or unenforced)laws makes a compelling argument against shutting down streets (which I also recognize was tangential to your original point). Suffice to say that I think one of the biggest mistakes any governmental entity can make is to pass laws that they can't--or won't--enforce. It leads to contempt for other, more serious laws.

    I concur with the absurdity of spending money on consultants. I've noted before that this village has numerous committees, made up of citizens, who volunteer their time and expertise. These folks are our consultants--and they work for free. We should be utilizing their work, rather than paying absurd sums to outsiders.

    Posted Tuesday Oct 14, 2008 08:55 #
  3. spatny
    Member

    Hear, hear! We have lots of smart and talented people in this village, people of good intent who are willing to volunteer time, effort, thought and sometimes even coin for purposes they feel are beneficial and, pardon the expression, for the greater good. I see some of them constantly attending the Village Board and Commission meetings and being abused by some of the Trustees for asking questions or not agreeing with their PRIORITIES. That's too bad, because they surely care as much about preserving this place as any Board member of Village employee. But do that and get ready to be ridiculed.

    Maybe I can't correct the traffic congestion with just a couple signs, but it's an idea to consider. In the meantime I have confined myself to simpler tasks, like picking up debris in the Swan Pond left by the flood. Amazing how much progress you can make all by yourself with just an hour or so a day, every day. And I see lots of other people doing good things - so the will is there to help. But when, for example, you need maybe a truck and a front loader and four guys for a day - less than a thousand bucks worth of paid help to move some gravel and sand that has washed in and fill in the path, and a truckload of driftwood and debris hauled out, and maybe a handful of trees planted - say $2,500 in all - then you hear that "That money is not available and won't be unless we get a tax increase," it bothers me. I think it may not be available because we spent $14,500 for a consultant search for a job that Nathan could do perfectly well at - and is doing - or $10,000 for a cheerleading Finance report or some other garbage like that - then you get pissed off and say "What's the use?" We spent over $10,000 on a Village Survey - and I'll bet you never heard what its conclusions were. I happened to read it and realize why - because its results aren't what they wanted to have. That's why volunteerism doesn't always work.

    Posted Tuesday Oct 14, 2008 09:43 #
  4. Catherine
    Member

    Yes, excuse me, I misspoke. I realize the request is for the consulting dollars spent by project.

    Perhaps they are sorry you cleared tens of bags of garbage from Swan Pond. They might have been able to use it as an argument for a tax increase.

    Why isn't the survey result posted to the village website? We did pay for it.

    Posted Tuesday Oct 14, 2008 10:33 #

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