What it means was that it was wrong to call those budget cuts lard, as it offends the people you rely on daily. Not the best strategy, in my opinion, to take away money from people you depend on and then insult them. Especially when those people make the town look as great and 'vintage' as it does today.
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Posted Tuesday Nov 6, 2007 03:46 #
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My husband and I were just discussing how the most angry you can make a person is when you hit their personal pocketbook.
I am certain that Catherine was not intending to insult anyone personally by using the term "lard."
It is not unlike "pork barrel" or "trimmed fat" that we hear in conjunction with slimming down budgets across the nation on a daily basis. Would having margarine trimmed be less offensive? At the end of the day, the loss is the same, cash in hand for somebody. Which is sad. But it is not a forum posts fault.
At this point, the village employees still have jobs, which many of their counterparts in other communities across the nation, private and public sectors alike, are losing.
Posted Tuesday Nov 6, 2007 07:45 # -
Maybe we should call it "Manteca?" Bad for the heart but good for the soul - by Dizzy Gellespie. Give a listen.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B00006J3UM001013/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_013/102-6364055-2749753Posted Tuesday Nov 6, 2007 08:48 # -
Yes, our infrastructure is vintage too. Lard. Fat. That which marbles the meat, is unnecessary and must be cut out. It is in the budget, it is in every budget. All of it must be removed before people will accept cuts in service or higher taxes. The alternative is personnel cuts, and I have no problem with that either. I rely on Cook County employees every day too. Since my sister works for the county, I can promise you there is lard there too. More and more of it every day, contrary to reports, which is why we are looking at 10% sales tax. Lard includes overpaid and/or unnecessary senior employees as well, if my experience in the private sector, the federal government, and my sister's in the County is any guide.
If you want to go to college, do it on your own dime. I did. I won't ask the village to subsidize my macrame classes either by continuing the fiscal madness in the Recreation Department.
Posted Tuesday Nov 6, 2007 10:53 # -
Anyone who is a Dizzy Gillespie fan is OK in my book. And it makes the forums far more interesting. I must say, I missed a lot on these boards in a couple of days!
Posted Tuesday Nov 6, 2007 21:39 # -
You're right, you're right. Its a good thing those employees still have their jobs unlike people in other sectors or other communities. Because if they weren't here the people in this town would have no one to complain to. That would indeed be a dark day.
I enjoy your contradictory statements as well:
2nd to last post: 'That does not mean that the people are not valuable.'
Last post: 'The alternative is personnel cuts, and I have no problem with that either.'
They either are valuable or they are expendable, Catherine, not both.And for the rest, 'A rose by any other name would smell as sweet'. Meaning, calling it lard, margerine, or William Shatner, still can offend our own people.
PS: Who the H-E-Double Hockey sticks is Dizzy Gillespie? (PPS spatny this may be your first clue)
Posted Wednesday Nov 7, 2007 01:36 # -
King and inventor of Bop, along with the Bird. You know, Be-Bop. CherylB knows music, you don't - I guess. Berks (Diz) used to play in my club and was one of the funniest guys on the planet. Synergist - are you an engineer, by trade? Guys that study technical fields sometimes don't have time for the arts. Not a criticism, just a comment. I remember when Sputnik went up they hauled all the farm boys into the U of I and made them into engineers of various persuasion. I think they mostly skipped things like Lit and Music and Art. To bad - for them and for us. I'm sure that Bucky Fuller loved Bop, but thn he was a man for all seasons.
Posted Wednesday Nov 7, 2007 05:44 # -
Very good, you picked up on the more obscure of the two parts. Although I was certain you would have discovered the obvious part of the hint. I.e. the other reason I wouldn't know who Dizzy was. Notwithstanding my degree in Aerospace Engineering, I consider myself fairly cultured in literature, languages and writing. Music really isn't my specialty or interest. Enough of me tooting my own horn though.
Nice choice on University too. ;)
Posted Wednesday Nov 7, 2007 06:12 # -
When I was there I was a Deke, and lived on the little park at Second and Daniels. I worked next door in the Chi Psi kitchen. At that time a Chi Psi was Chief Illiniwiek (sp?) - John Forsyth by name, and he went on to be a big engineer of something. I left Illinois to go to Taliesin, then Cuba, where I learned to smoke Oscuro cigars, drink lots of little coffees, love Afro-Cuban music, shoot a rifle and climb over fences in the dark. A miilion years ago.
Posted Wednesday Nov 7, 2007 08:00 # -
Valuable as people, valuable as workers: somewhere else if necessary, just like everybody else in the country who gets laid off. What economic world are you living in?
Nice try at logic though. You don't seem to have a hard time insulting the taxpayers who sign the paychecks, by the way.
PS: Lard.
Posted Wednesday Nov 7, 2007 09:40 #
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