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Feeling pain at the pump? Food prices got ya down?

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  1. spatny
    Member

    Obama better get off his ass and clean up the CFTC speculators that are adding about 25% to the cost of every gallon. And guess who the big players in that are? Why our good friends at Goldman Sachs and Bear Stearns. Fancy that. Used to be people that used a commodity - like an airline with petroleum or a baking company with wheat hedged their future needs - and were known as the "edgers." Now there's about $350 billion of speculators running the show. This is more of the crowd that Greenspan thought were what his pal Ayn Rand declared were "born to rule".

    "Will Obama Appoint Someone To The CFTC Who Will Check Speculation On Gas Prices?
    Gas prices have gone up 34 cents per gallon in just the past 13 days, as barrels of oil trade at highs not seen in over two years. This poses a serious threat to the economic recovery — experts say prolonged high gas prices could reduce economic growth and counteract recent stimulative measures undertaken by the government.

    The proximate cause for this spike is unrest in the Middle East. On January 28, in the midst of unrest in Egypt, oil prices closed $4 to $5 higher than normal, but stabilized when Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak resigned in February. The current turmoil in Libya seems to have created even more chaos in the oil markets. But one question remains unanswered — to what extent are commodity traders influencing these high gas prices? As Chris Hayes notes in The Nation, the last time gas prices spiked, in the summer of 2008, many experts concluded that Wall Street speculators, not supply and demand, created the high prices.

    Last night, The Ed Show did a segment in conjunction with The Nation clearly explaining the relationship between commodity trading and gas prices, with a focus on how commodity trading could be regulated to prevent unnatural rises in fuel prices. Watch it:

    As the segment notes, during the last spike in gas prices in 2008, then-candidates Obama and McCain both assailed commodity speculators and called for increased regulation. The Dodd-Frank financial regulatory reform law gave the Commodity Futures Trading Commission the power to curb “excessive speculation” by limiting the bets speculators can make, and called on the commission to do so.

    Unfortunately, opposition from the commission’s Republicans — and one Democrat, Michael Dunn — has so far prevented the CFTC from acting to regulate dangerous speculation on gasoline and other commodities. But Dunn’s term is ending this summer. The White House told the Ed Show it is “vetting” replacements — but would not say if they’re looking for a nominee that favors rules to curb excessive speculation.

    Will the White House choose a candidate that wants to follow the law of Dodd-Frank, and insulate gas prices from predatory Wall Street speculators? It would certainly be a much more effective way of controlling gas prices than listening to conservative cries of “Drill, Baby, Drill.”"

    Posted Thursday Mar 10, 2011 22:04 #
  2. PAR4
    Member

    Not only are they unsure how to regulate these guys, the pols are balking at giving them (and the SEC) the funding to get it done - you know....gotta trim the budget!

    Posted Friday Mar 11, 2011 08:48 #
  3. spatny
    Member

    Here's a WSJ article on that very thing - reduced funding for the SEC to monitor trades...

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703905404576164774042487098.html

    So we cut spending and let these guys run wild. Great planning.

    FYI - I'm reading a great book - "All the Devils Are Here" - By Bethany McLean(who wrote "The Smartest Guys in the Room" about Enron and Joe Nocera who has been called "the Best Business Writer Alive." It weaves the history of the Financial Crisis and - amazing - many of those same people that screwed it up before are back fooling with the CFTC and making millions more. I'll be giving it back to the library next week. But of course, why is that amazing? It's SOP.

    Posted Friday Mar 11, 2011 09:52 #
  4. TS
    Member

    Who had control of the House and the Senate for the last two years? What prevented the Dems from passing whatever they wanted the last two years? Now everything is the fault of the Republicans, they're the obstructionists? The droning ad infinitum about the current Senate is an empty argument. The President had two years to pass anything he wanted and he couldn't get it done. Blame your former leadership for a change, they're more at fault than the current Senate majority.

    Posted Friday Mar 11, 2011 10:12 #
  5. spatny
    Member

    I think the WSJ article makes it plain that both sides are/were at fault.

    Posted Friday Mar 11, 2011 10:36 #
  6. EricSundstrom
    Member

    TS. If you have been paying attention to the political scene in Washington the last two years you wouldn't be making your past statement. The Repulican party has filibustered almost EVERY initiative the democrats attempted to put in place. Nothing got done except continuation of the tax breaks to the weathiest in the usa and the. corporations.

    Posted Friday Mar 11, 2011 14:15 #
  7. mrt
    Member

    D or R, they are both playing games with us. Big money seems to be the force behind these dumb consonants.

    I saw this piece in the Tribune today on impending federal funding cuts to Argonne Nat'l lab, and I had to blink twice and re-read it a couple times to get what was going on. I did not know whether the explanation at the end of the article was from a D or R .

    It came in loud and clear that funding for Argonne is on the block and 1,400 Argonne jobs would be lost. But the article did not mention whether the representatives were R's or D's. I understood that Roskam was for the cuts and he was (probably) an 'R', and this Hultgren was against the cuts and was probably a 'D'. But I was trying to decode the answer Biggert made in an email, copied below. Was she for the cuts or against them? Was she an R or D?

    A Hultgren spokesman said the congressman was concerned that high-energy physics programs were being targeted for cuts, while Roskam said the cuts weren't easy but were necessary.

    Meanwhile, Biggert's office responded "Jeopardy"-style.

    "As the national debt skyrockets above $14 trillion, who is playing games and jeopardizing an economic recovery instead of getting federal spending under control, spurring job creation and putting our nation on a fiscally sustainable path?" a Biggert representative said via e-mail.

    The correct response, according to Biggert's office: "Who is the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and their allies in Congress?"

    WHo was 'playing games'? Republicans or Democrats? When reducing what amounts to a pittance on the whole multi trillion budget and the benefits that we as a nation and in our local IL communities would recv from continued suppport of Argonne - and thereby lose if the funding is stopped? Who is playing games when this cutting is done on top of giving away about a trillion dollars to the richest few? The latter was done while democrats were in power.

    Who was 'jeopardizing an economic recovery', the Republicans or the Democrats? see the next two points.

    Who was not 'spurring job creation'? - considering that 1,400 Argonne jobs would be lost under this proposal - and these are good solid middle class hi tech jobs with big multiplier effects in the surrounding communities. I happen to know one Argonne chemist who lives in Riverside.

    Who would not be 'putting our nation on a fiscally sustainable path'? Democrats or Republicans? After all, money into basic research and development that is done at Argonne is money that is well spent for sustaining America's lead in hi tech (for example, the main research for the Chevy Volt electric car came from Argonne, but we have tons more to do on this subject - see this subject thread, too). It is insane to cut funding on basic energy research when we went into a multi trillion war in Iraq for oil and our fledgling economic recovery is about to be lost due to skyrocketing energy prices.

    I think this snide stupid joke-like response (especially stupid considering all that is at stake with the crazy mid east problems rearing up - as if that just started happening! - and gas prices going thru the roof and NOW is the time to cut basic research in Energy?) is (probably) from a Republican, but both sides are a part of the problem. Her response was sufficiently vague that both sides could be accused of the 'games'.

    Everyone, please call your representatives, whether an R or a D, stop the cuts to Argonne, especially in these times, and to stop the games.

    Posted Friday Mar 11, 2011 14:56 #
  8. TS
    Member

    Having a hard time typing through the laughter. All the ills of the country are the fault of the Republican Party. This makes me wonder why the Democrats even run for office if the Republicans are going to filibuster and block every piece of legislation. Eric, thanks for lesson in revisionist history.

    Unlike most who toe the Democratic line and vote blindly, I vote for members of both parties and acknowledge when a Dem does something well and when a Republican does something wrong. Blind allegiance to a party is folly but I digress.

    Posted Friday Mar 11, 2011 15:31 #
  9. EricSundstrom
    Member

    Revisionist? Ok name a piece of legislation that went thru in tha last two years without the republicans screaming and kicking. Killing DADT only went thru because Obama and the democrats caved and continued the Bush tax cuts an additional two years. Want to bet if the Republican candidate for president wins in 2012 those tax cut will be permanent? How lovely. Give money to millionaires but cut the retirement pensions for policemen, firemen and teachers because we have budget deficits. Deficits created by politicians not the American worker.

    Posted Friday Mar 11, 2011 16:22 #
  10. JamesMarsh
    Member

    Eric Sundstrom - Tax cuts do "give" money to millionaires. A tax cut allows someone to keep more of their own money. I do understand why have a progressive income tax structure. To me, it does not treat people as equals.

    Posted Friday Mar 11, 2011 17:01 #

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