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Finance Review--Why the Secrecy?

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  • Started 2 years ago by JohnM
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  1. JohnM
    Member

    The RCA ran on a platform of open and transparent government. Elect us, they said, and the Board's workings will be viewable to all. No more back room deals or non-public meetings. A brave new dawn for the true believers.

    So what are they doing now? Per the Landmark, President Gorman and Trustee Sacchi are personally reviewing the budget and meeting with staff to formulate recommendations to be discussed by the board on June 2. While Trustee Sussman is apparently involved in these discussions to a limited degree, it seems clear from the Landmark article that this process is essentially the work of Gorman and Sacchi. What's interesting is that they have refused to share their ideas and discoveries, keeping the rest of the Board--and the Village--in the dark until the June 2 meeting.

    In meetings earlier this year, Trustees Sells and Sussman asked that these discussions of Village finances be held at public meetings, where all Board members--and members of the public--could listen and make comments. Trustee Sacchi stated that "I don't agree with doing that at this point," Sacchi said. "I see my job as giving the board viable options to consider."

    Think about this for a minute. Two Board members are having discussions and making plans that will have an enormous impact on the future of the Village, and refuse to bring the rest of the Board along. Two Board members have taken it on themselves to meet with staff, analyze the issues and present recommendations to the Board as a whole, with only limited input from one other Board member--and will expect the other Board members to make decisions without having even discussed these proposals, or gauged the criteria that Messrs. Gorman and Saachi used to develop their recommendations. And when Trustee Sells has the temerity to suggest that this may not be a good idea, President Gorman blasts him in the press for, among other things, his "lack of willingness to work collaboratively on matters as opposed to using public forums, either at board meetings or in letters to the editor." President Gorman's distaste for "public forums" and the press is, I think, instructive as to his mindset towards open government.

    The ironic thing about this is that the RCA members have pointed to the elimination of the Committee of The Whole as an example of their committment to open and transparent government. The reality is that the elimination of this committee makes it impossible for the Board as a whole to conduct the kind of review that needs to be done. The purpose of the Committee of the Whole is to enable the Board to discuss these issues, and gain insight and plan policy in a collaborative effort with other Board members. Significantly, minutes were kept of meetings of the Committee of the Whole, and while public comment was not allowed, residents were still able to attend. Now, because of the elimination of that committee, we have a situation where two Board members are operating by themselves, in screcy, with extremely limited input from the other trustees. These meetings are not subject to the Open Meetings act, and there is no requirement that any minutes, memos or other memorialization of their discussions be maintained.

    Is this the Open and Transparent government that the RCA wants? Unfortunately, I think it is. They'll give lip service to the concept, and put videos of meetings on the Village web site, but when it comes down to brass tacks, they have no interest in working with the other trustees, or allowing Village residents any insight into the process.

    Posted Thursday May 13, 2010 09:10 #
  2. spatny
    Member

    The operative phrase in the above is "Per the Landmark." This is all BS. You know what that is, right? The Landfill has taken every opportunity to snipe at the winners because it backed the losers. Come to the meetings - ask questions based on facts and not innuendo and supposition fed by the dissatisfied, and all will be revealed.

    "The Board of Trustees of the Village of Riverside has scheduled a Special "The State of the Village" Meeting on Monday, May 17, 2010 at 6:30 p.m. in Room 4 of the Township Hall, 27 Riverside Road. The Special Meeting will be followed by the Regular Meeting of the Village Board at 7:30 p.m. in the same room. The public is encouraged to attend. Please visit the village website to view the meeting Agendas.

    If you are unable to attend the meeting in person, please watch the meeting live on Comcast Cable Channel 6. The meeting will also be recorded for later rebroadcast and available in DVD form at the Riverside Public Library."

    What could be more open than that?

    Posted Thursday May 13, 2010 16:57 #
  3. PAR4
    Member

    Don - I normally am skeptical of the agenda tainted media as well, but the facts of this one are plain as day. They ran on the 'transparency' platform and they (G & S) readily admit that they are meeting outside of the public forum in order to 'prepare their recommendations'. As a taxpaying resident of this town, I think an open forum that gives ALL members of the community a voice in this is imperative. This town is filled with very intelligent people who would obviously have a few pennies of wisdom to advance - don't they deserve a say - or at least a look at ALL the infornmation available? The fact that G & S feel they can parse through and decide what's best for the greater population is ludicris.

    I'm not beating the RCA horse here...if it were Sells and Scully or Sussman and Reynolds, I don't care - two individuals should not be the sole deciders on what is 'right' for the village as a whole - especially in this time of financial turmoil.

    Posted Thursday May 13, 2010 18:04 #
  4. corbi296
    Member

    Don,

    I must say that your hypocrisy and blindness when it comes to the RCA is staggering. Just because these guys support policies that are consistent with your vision for Riverside (i.e. Leave everything untouched, do as little as possible),you are willing to overlook and deny the same kind of underhanded political tactics and partisanship that you are often so critical of at the federal government level.

    I am sure you will dismiss my comments and attribute them to my personal bias but you may surprised to hear that this is coming from someone that more often than not agrees with your political rants about federal politics. Regardless of political leanings, the one thing I can't stand is pandering politicians who are hypocrites and deliberately mislead just so they can get elected or win reelection. Setting all the deliberate lies that were told about Katie Rush, the TIF and endless other topics, the RCA won the election on the basis of two main claims. First, Riverside's financial problems were due to uncontrolled expense growth rather than a limited revenue stream that was too heavily dependent on residential real estate tax revenue. The RCA claimed that given their expertise, they could solve our financial problems solely by cutting expenses without having any detrimental impact on town services. Second, the previous boards were not representative of the town and had ruled the town in a closed and less than transparent way.

    After one year in office under the RCA, our financial position has worsened and we have seen nothing from the RCA in the way of meaningful expense reductions. On the subject of openness and transparancy, the facts deliniated in the article and restated by Mr. Matthews above are indisputable. Neither Sacchi nor Gorman are disputing that whatever plan they will present has been concocted solely by themselves, in private with no records and no public deliberations or input. Say what you want about the process, but open and transparent government this is not. Given all the above, I find it hard to believe how any informed and balanced Riverside resident would not conclude that the RCA representatives are incmpetent or deliberately misled to get into office. Neither scenario is very appealing to me.

    Posted Thursday May 13, 2010 18:43 #
  5. spatny
    Member

    "Informed and balanced?" Sounds like Faux news to me. You two have taken every opportunity to snipe at these guys since they won by popular vote, moaning about everything from dandelions to whatever else strikes your fancy. Saying what you do does not make it so. Listening and reading Ben Sells take his shots in the press or elsewhere does not alter the fact that these people have won the election and are governing effectively. They inherited a situation from the previous bunch not unlike what Obama got from the party you no doubt favor. They immediately found that despite the financial presentations that were made at the time of the election, things were worse. That naturally constrains what you can do and how fast you can do it. If you have a legal beef go to court. I absolutely dismiss your rants. The last gov spent money on all kinds of wasteful stuff (Including TIF, TOD, paying too much for the Burlington lots, incentives for the VC, etc.) Ad nauseum. These guys came in to bail us out with a leaky bucket, but they are coping. I hope the Exec Session minutes from those days are made public so you can read what happened. I want that to happen. So do they, I think. I bet, and will back it up, that outside of a very small minority - maybe two hundred tops - most people understand the situation they inherited and back them. If you want to make a wager on the next election come around.

    Posted Thursday May 13, 2010 19:04 #
  6. JohnM
    Member

    Don,

    You can dismiss me all you want, but facts are facts.

    -The RCA ran on a platform of open and transparent government.

    -The RCA members of the Board shot down Sell's and Sussman's proposals to discuss finances and strategy in an open Board session.

    -President Gorman and Trustee Sacchi are currently embarked on their own private, secret review of Village finance and budget issues, and have refused to reveal information about this review to their fellow trustees or to residents. Their plan is to reveal the results and recommendations of this review on June 2, recommendations that will have been prepared with little to no input from any of the other trustees or from Village residents.

    Maybe you can enlighten me as to how the second and third points above reflect the open and transparent government that they promised?

    As an aside, I find it interesting that two times in this thread, you've suggested that you possess information that other Village citizens are not privy to. In your initial post you stated that "all will be revealed." In your last post, you state that "I hope the Exec Session minutes from those days are made public so you can read what happened. I want that to happen. So do they, I think." Do you have access to the Executive Session minutes, Don? Has the content of these minutes been shared with you? What about the review of finances by Messrs. Gorman and Sacchi--are you privy to information that the other Trustees and citizens are not?

    Posted Thursday May 13, 2010 19:41 #
  7. corbi296
    Member

    Classic Spatny response. Totally in denial.

    By the way, I don't watch Fox News. You should know that. Informed and balanced means exactly what normal people would interpret it to mean. Informed means educated about the facts and balanced means objective. It remains to be seen how many people in Riverside fit that description. I guess we will find out when puppet master Shevitz and his puppets are up for reelection

    Posted Thursday May 13, 2010 20:48 #
  8. spatny
    Member

    I did not say, and do not have any other information - but I do pay attention and attend meetings and talk to people. I have confidence that "all will be revealed" at the appropriate times. I know the Board wants to make all its minutes public, and hope that happens - but I have not seen or read any. I look forward to doing so. But I don't just sit and carp or moan about dandelions.

    Tonight I attended the Preservation meeting and have what I think, and I believe any "normal people" will think, is wonderful news. I listened to the presentation on behalf of the new owners of the Arcade as to what they plan for the building, and I can tell you it was inspiring. Their plans for the renewal and rebirth of the Arcade building's appearance are far more than I think any of us hoped for. The brick will be restored and tuck pointed, the keystones redone, the chimneys raised, the corner tower roofs redone in slate, the cupola restored, the stained glass windows restored and fabricated where missing, etc. If they carry through, and I think no one doubted their sincerity to do so, we will have the Arcade building back as it was meant to be. So rejoice in that.

    There are two meetings coming up where finance will be covered. Why not wait and attend and see what you learn? Why the
    " Rush to Judgement?" Just because a trustee feels left out doesn't make it so. If you want info that you don't have just make a call or do an FOIA. I did many times in the past and often got the grand run around. I doubt that will happen now.

    When you call people "puppet master" or "puppets" you are setting the tone. They may not answer but I will. You two have been whining and complaining like little kids ever since your candidates lost. Get a life. Those old days are over, and I expect more fresh blood and ideas will come aboard at the next election. I see Riverside doing at least as well as other communities in difficult times. Trying to turn this place about in the worst economy in more than half a century ain't easy, so if you can't be helpful at least be patient. Maybe you could think of the dandelions as flowers...

    Posted Thursday May 13, 2010 22:33 #
  9. spatny
    Member

    Here's a little item about the State of the State.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37136518/ns/us_news-life

    Posted Thursday May 13, 2010 23:00 #
  10. corbi296
    Member

    Don,

    To hear you complain about someone else whining and complaining is quite comical and hypocritical. If previous boards had acted in the same way your RCA buddies are acting, you would have been screaming bloody murder, filing FOIAs left and right, calling the State's Attorneys office claiming breach of the Open Meetings Act, and exercising your freedom of speech rights by posting endlessly about the injustice of it all. You have done all of this in the past and more. Now that you agree with the direction that this board is taking the village, you are willing to ignore it all and have the gall to accuse other involved citizens who are speaking out of being complainers just because they don't agree with your point of view? This coming from someone who in the past has lamented about how few people in Riverside pay attention and get involved locally? What a joke!

    I make no bones about it. I have publicly stated many times before the election that I don't believe most of the individuals making up the RCA contingent have the skill sets and qualifications we need in our Village Trustees and most importantly I believe they ran an unethical campaign based on misleading information and promises that could not be fullfilled. That being said, I respect election results and have never questioned their legitimacy. However, as a long time tax paying resident and homeowner with a significant personal investment tied to the well being of this Village, I watch closely what is going on with all local taxing bodies and will continue to shine a light and comment on any deicisions that I don't think are the best interest of the Village or any actions that are contrary to promises that were made during a campaign. Whether you like it or not, that is exactly what is going on here. For the long term well being of the Village and for the long term values of our homes, I urge all other Riverside homeowners to pay close attention to what the RCA controlled board is doing. So far, I don't think they will like what they see.

    Posted Friday May 14, 2010 06:49 #

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