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Landmark Letter to the Editor, "Move forward TIF" 5/2/07

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  1. KimJ
    Member

    http://rblandmark.com/main.asp?SectionID=3&SubSectionID=17&ArticleID=2542&TM=78678.16

    Move forward with Riverside TIF

    Thank you to all that voted. I am glad to see that the Riverside voters have had a chance to voice their opinions. It is unfortunate that this non-binding TIF referendum didn't pass.

    There is much misinformation out there. The village trustees have been patient, but now it is time to move forward. Please be reassured that TIFs are good tool. For those who were and still are opposed to the TIF; I offer this for support and information for all residents.

    Riverside has lost a lot of business, and some say let's wait, evaluate and see what will happen in the short term and long term. How long is short term, and how big of property tax increases do you want? According to the Village of Riverside advisory referendum, and please take time to read it, you would have $160 per year increase with a TIF and $300 per year without the TIF.

    According to the U.S. Census Bureau the median age in Riverside is down as compared to previous years. .

    As such, downtown Riverside definitely needs some redevelopment that meets the needs of the younger populace in a cohesive manner.

    I have news for all of the antagonists-if we are to attract quality real estate developers and desired retail tenants, they need to see the business opportunity that bears reasonable profits. Otherwise, this redevelopment won't happen.

    And, come on people, not a lot is happening downtown right now, except for maybe a couple condo buildings that, frankly, appear to be languishing with no good retail and certainly not accretive to our community.

    Is that what you want-a project here and there? Or do you want an orderly and cohesive development for our downtown? I have heard people say that they want quality development and tenants, but don't want to pay for it. You can't have it both ways. If you find that free money tree, please plant one in my backyard.

    We also need to solve parking problems, and that takes money. If you think we are alone, TIF was necessary for the redevelopment of downtown Park Ridge, Barrington, St. Charles and Oak Park-all communities that have a lot of similarities to ours. Why is it that Riverside residents have difficulty voting for change when it is all positive?

    In order to be educated on this, I searched the Internet for information on TIF.

    The site I found most useful was the Illinois Tax Increment Association (www.illinois-tif.com). The website lists and answers 22 common questions about TIF, including whether or not schools lose money as a result of TIFs.

    ************** From that very same site, thanks Julie Laube for the info....

    http://www.illinois-tif.com/TIFpro.htm#qual

    Philip R. McKenna
    Kane, McKenna & Associates, Inc.
    150 N. Wacker Dr., #1600
    Chicago, IL 60606-1607
    312-444-1702
    pmckenna@kanemckenna.com
    &
    Michael Laube, President
    Laube Companies
    200 S. Wacker Dr., Suite 3100
    Chicago, Illinois 60606
    (312) 674-4537 direct
    (312) 275-7474 fax
    mlaube@laubecompanies.com

    Currently there are 47 states that have TIF. Illinois law also has the most rigorous/strict "but for" test.

    Do TIFs divert money from schools? If used properly, the answer is no. The village board must make a finding in order to establish a TIF district or enter into any "business deal" with a developer that if TIF is to be used, "but for" the TIF, the project would not occur. TIFs actually can create money for schools-research it for yourself.
    ********* at the TIF Association of IL website!***********

    There are many short- and long-term benefits for the communities-no huge tax increases, increased property values, new development, municipal control and incremental revenue to the community. (VILLAGE)

    I urge the trustees to lead us and move forward with this TIF.

    Julie Laube
    Riverside

    Posted Wednesday May 2, 2007 20:51 #
  2. RiversideResident
    Member

    Mike Laube was on the panel for Workshop III was he not?

    http://www.riverside.il.us/vertical/Sites/%7B42F3B77D-FE50-43B3-96BF-EB06D8EB0A86%7D/uploads/%7BACAC29DF-9DF4-4AB8-9E21-5C5C1FD2C43C%7D.PDF

    Posted Wednesday May 2, 2007 22:11 #
  3. spatny
    Member

    The Bantam flies high and sees all. They shall not pass this garbage, regardless of who is dreaming of a new Benz. Beautiful!

    Posted Wednesday May 2, 2007 22:13 #
  4. MikeT
    Member

    Do TIFs divert money from schools? If used properly, the answer is no.

    As I understand it+, this is what a TIF does assuming that the schools are not in the boundaries of the TIF district. In Riverside's case, it would be virtually impossible to include the schools in the TIF district - unless they encircled the whole town, including across 1st av to lasso RB. The schools are spread about the town and there is a contiguity requirement for TIF districts.

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    + this is from the suburban life in a simple description of the TIF
    and which I had quoted earlier here

    http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=341&page&replies=3#post-4887

    Establishing a TIF district allows a municipality to fund major redevelopment projects by using increases in tax revenue generated by the redevelopment. The increases in tax revenue are collected by only the village for the life of the TIF district, which is typically 23 years. This means other taxing bodies, including local school districts and the county, don't benefit from the increases until it expires.

    Posted Thursday May 3, 2007 00:28 #
  5. MikeT
    Member

    I have news for all of the antagonists-if we are to attract quality real estate developers and desired retail tenants, they need to see the business opportunity that bears reasonable profits. Otherwise, this redevelopment won't happen.

    It is not news to us antagonists. We have seen the other very important piece of research, called the Dye Merriman report, and it basically says that TIFs DO NOT CREATE OPPORTUNITY.

    http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=101&page&replies=12

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    My personal opinion is this is one reason they might want to add high density housing into RIverside - maybe bump up the population to that magic number of 10k in order to support a chipotles; import the customers; if they will not come to us, then join us. in the process, we have lost the essential Riverside. BYOSUV.
    ...more on this here...
    http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=230&page&replies=10#post-3668

    Posted Thursday May 3, 2007 01:05 #
  6. MikeT
    Member

    There is much misinformation out there.

    Were the 9 workshops that the Village administration supported and held also misinformation?

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    The village trustees have been patient, but now it is time to move forward.

    "Men of Action".
    http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=297&page&replies=21#post-4584

    Posted Thursday May 3, 2007 01:10 #
  7. MikeT
    Member

    Please be reassured that TIFs are good tool.

    I feel better already.

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    "The very word 'war', therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. ... War is Peace."
    George Orwell 1984

    Posted Thursday May 3, 2007 01:26 #
  8. MikeT
    Member

    According to the Village of Riverside advisory referendum, and please take time to read it, you would have $160 per year increase with a TIF and $300 per year without the TIF.

    This assumes that we do the things that are under contention right now --

    *infrastructure to support high density housing,
    *parking structures (I know the Landmark reported that they said no structures on 4-23, after the referendum; but they also said they need a parking study, and the day before they said they need to keep 56 + 60 Pine in for parking)
    *some kind of development in the green spaces (Swan Pond)

    If we did more thoughtful, scaled parsimonious approaches that befits a town that does not have car dealerships and major arterial access, then we would have FAR less tax increases.
    This might be the "small" approaches that were talked about in the workshops (sub $10k expenditures as well as watching our money outflow more carefully )

    Posted Thursday May 3, 2007 01:34 #
  9. Tim
    Member

    I cannot believe the Landmark would print this biased misinformation...next thing you know we'll have Phil's left main coronary artery writing letters to the editor from a jar of formalin.

    This reminds me of that brainless twit at the end of Workshop III who "claimed" to be the average citizen...who felt the Village needed TWO swimming pools...that she needed a Starbucks to hang out with her friends (even though she didn't drink coffee)...that there's nowhere to "walk to" in Riverside...

    ...when select members of our Board mention that, "people are telling us we need to do something" is this the 'people' they are referring to? ...the wives of the Illinois TIF club?

    I again believe that our Village Board has been misled...and this letter appears to be more of the same misinformation.

    Posted Thursday May 3, 2007 06:31 #
  10. Catherine
    Member

    Yes, if you are going to plant a shill, plant one who can think and write clearly. Or is she meant to sound more like one of the "people" who are imagined to populate this town?

    Posted Thursday May 3, 2007 09:40 #

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