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Light Pollution

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  • Started 4 years ago by ChrisHajer
  • Latest reply from Catherine
  1. ChrisHajer
    Member

    There has been much talk on this forum about light pollution:

    spatny: ...overly bright lights spilling over into public areas...

    spatny: The instances of private overbright lighting in this town are getting absurd if not obscene.

    spatny: ...the trend to destroy Riverside's wonderful night darkness by stringing lights and fake lamp standards...

    spatny: The sky was dark then, with no Chicago and Expressway sodium vapor lights to bounce off the clouds...

    MikeTomecek [Riverside] has natural gas lamps, soft light that does not really provide adequate light from a practical point of view, but...

    MikeTomecek: *the installation of the electric light in the cbd.

    MikeTomecek: *the library ultra bright spot light in front of the library; the former hanging one was just right for the that building.

    MikeTomecek: ...there is an overpoweringly bright spotlight shining down that completely washes out that beautiful charming light fixture that hangs down and casts a soft light so perfectly against the natural stone facade of the Library.

    spatny: It's a shame so much light bounces into Riverside off the clouds now...

    idic5: Let's replace the gas lamps for strong electric lights so that we can see the cars better.

    elainemaria: ...our curvy streets, beautiful homes and lovely gas lamps (that ARE dark, but that's okay).

    spatny: ...the curbs vs. electric light trade-off in town, and we will see what the strings are on the Centennial "Plaza" money in terms of lighting standards, etc.

    spatny: If you think it's bad in the daytime, you have to walk around at night and look at the casino-like lighting that is starting to sprout everywhere.

    Catherine: ...downtown also ruined by bright light developers...

    spatny: It's just like the curbs and the electric lights downtown - they are "improvements" that in the eyes of many detract from Riverside's native ambiance.

    In the New Yorker August 20, 2007:
    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/08/20/070820fa_fact_owen?printable=true

    In Galileo's time, nighttime skies all over the world would have merited the darkest Bortle ranking, Class 1. Today, the sky above New York City is Class 9, at the other extreme of the scale, and American suburban skies are typically Class 5, 6, or 7. The very darkest places in the continental United States today are almost never darker than Class 2, and are increasingly threatened. For someone standing on the North Rim of the Grand Canyon on a moonless night, the brightest feature of the sky is not the Milky Way but the glow of Las Vegas, a hundred and seventy-five miles away. To see skies truly comparable to those which Galileo knew, you would have to travel to such places as the Australian outback and the mountains of Peru. And civilization's assault on the stars has consequences far beyond its impact on astronomers. Excessive, poorly designed outdoor lighting wastes electricity, imperils human health and safety, disturbs natural habitats, and, increasingly, deprives many of us of a direct relationship with the nighttime sky, which throughout human history has been a powerful source of reflection, inspiration, discovery, and plain old jaw-dropping wonder.

    It's worth 10 minutes of your time to read the full story.

    Posted Saturday Sep 8, 2007 23:27 #
  2. ChrisHajer
    Member

    Want to do something about it?

    Night Sky Friendly Outdoor Lighting Products by Starry Night Lights
    http://www.starrynightlights.com/

    Light pollution wastes billions of dollars and vast quantities of natural resources annually. It also robs us of our heritage of star-filled skies. I am committed to fighting light pollution. I offer the widest selection of ordinance compliant, night sky friendly and neighbor friendly outdoor lighting for your home or business. Think about it: If you're not installing friendly outdoor lights, what exactly are you installing?

    Posted Saturday Sep 8, 2007 23:31 #
  3. spatny
    Member

    Thanks for the research, Chris. How about helping me to get the Methodist Church to turn down or off that horrible light they have? I try and complained to the Village and they do nothing. The thing goes on and off all night but they don't seem to care. It is blinding if you walk toward it from either Woodside or Kimbark, and paints the houses on the west side of Kimbark so brightly that your shadow looks like a scene from The Third Man on them. They all have their shades or drapes drawn. Some Christians. Other aggregious examples are the new lights at 203 Scootswood, the guy on Scottswood that hung the trees way up n the trees, the "casino on Nuttall" and lots more. Disneyland meets Las Vegas. WE should demand that the building department enforce the code.

    Posted Sunday Sep 9, 2007 14:35 #
  4. Catherine
    Member

    Have you ever talked to the minister there, Spatny? I would be amazed if they did not do anything, once asked. Perhaps they are not aware of what a nuisance it is. If it is anti-crime motion sensitive light, the wattage could be lowered. But it shouldn't be on the public way in any event.

    Posted Monday Sep 10, 2007 10:39 #
  5. spatny
    Member

    Spoke with her yesterday as a matter of fact. Her predecessor just said "no one else ever complained" and stiffed me. Village building department did zip. She, the pastor, says "a lot of people like it." Talked to a guy that is a deacon or something - whatever Methodists have, who aid he would do something, like putting barn doors on it, but never did anything. Pastor said "the timer goes off every time we have a power outage" and when I suggested she reset it she gave me a pained expression. Totally clueless - never answered my previous calls or letters. They rent the place to dance groups and now a Waldorf school and constantly have tacky banners and signs hanging on it, but nobody ever complains. Anyway - it's voodoo.

    Posted Monday Sep 10, 2007 15:56 #
  6. Catherine
    Member

    Amazing.

    Posted Monday Sep 10, 2007 17:54 #

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