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President Wiaduck's Letter from the Village Website posted 3/27

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  1. spatny
    Member

    Dear Editor,

    This morning the Village received a number of calls from residents who had questions about a flier they had received from the Concerned Citizens of Riverside; specifically, questions about whether the information provided was accurate.

    Unfortunately, information contained in the flier is inaccurate. First, it asserts that agreements have been made relating to future improvements to the Central Business District and surrounding infrastructure; this just is not true. Second, no mention is made of the various review and approval processes which would be required for financial assistance if a TIF were established.

    Inaccuracies contained in the flier residents received may have stemmed from misunderstanding and confusion surrounding preliminary and substantial planning efforts the Village has undertaken—”efforts all communities undertake when considering TIF financing. For instance, prior to establishing a TIF, it is recommended communities identify and even designate development that meets the criteria for consideration, at a later date, for financial assistance —” that is, in the event a TIF is established.

    And, let's not forget, as with all Village development, regardless of the financing mechanism used, all projects are subject to the stringent and rigorous standards set forth in Riverside's building and zoning regulations. This includes all the many review and public processes pertaining to historic preservation and landscape architectural designations, including those applicable to buildings with landmark designation, such as the Arcade Building.

    It is not surprising that the Board approved a resolution which will allow it to further influence development of the Arcade Building to assure it is the type, nature and quality fitting a National Landmark community. By no means, does this action eliminate already existing and applicable zoning and building regulations supporting the preservation of Riverside's historical character; rather it strengthens them. If a TIF is established, using incremental property taxes is a legitimate and important objective to close a gap and make possible the renovation of the Arcade Building, an important historic building in the center of the Village.

    For the record, the village has not entered into any contractual agreements with any developer surrounding proposed improvements; nor has the village committed to any specific dollar amount; nor has a final decision been made as to how improvements will be financed.

    Your Village Board has the entire community's interests at heart. The proposed TIF is one means being considered and studied to address the community's ever expanding list of capital development needs. It is a tool to assist in what many residents believe are needed economic development efforts to improve the CBD.

    In closing, we would hope that as development efforts move forward, we all remember the responsibilities that accompany our status as a National Historic Landmark, serving as stewards and as an example to communities everywhere. We do, however, think that our stewardship extends to the manner in which we communicate amongst each other—”the manner in which we voice our opinions—”and the manner in which we disagree with each other. Honesty and integrity need to remain part of that process and we all need to do our best to not skew information for the sake of supporting one opinion or another. Healthy dialogue and disagreement produce good things—“and, Riverside is an example of that. Let's just remember that dialogue about how to finance improvements to our community always be conducted with integrity, respect and honesty.

    President Wiaduck and Riverside Board of Trustees

    Posted Tuesday Mar 27, 2007 17:24 #
  2. MDS
    Member

    Here's the text of the flyer in question:


    Be Informed

    Riverside's proposed TIF:
    Taking money from our schools, library, police and fire departments
    to subsidize developers.

    What is the village board really doing?

    Resolution 62: TIF money for the Arcade Building developer
    On September 6, 2006, the village board passed Resolution 62, which would give money to the development company that owns the Arcade Building if the TIF is established.

    TIF money to fund a developer's wish list?
    A document obtained from the village via a Freedom of Information Act filing proposes that TIF money —“ our tax dollars —“ pay for 100% of over 30 development costs such as:
    —¢ $139,275 for demolition
    —¢ $177,101 in legal fees
    —¢ $387,070 for interest carry on land and buildings
    —¢ $155,000 for permits
    —¢ $62,512 for real estate taxes

    The document details $1,180,471 of our tax dollars being used for the Arcade renovation.

    This document, as well as the minutes of the Resolution 62 meeting, can be viewed and downloaded at
    www.riversideinfo.org/arcade

    Don't sit by while the village gives our tax dollars to developers.

    Be sure to vote NO on all three referenda on
    Election Day, Tuesday, April 17.

    For more information, visit www.riversideinfo.org or call (708) 442-3166

    Posted Tuesday Mar 27, 2007 18:18 #
  3. MDS
    Member

    "Unfortunately, information contained in the flier is inaccurate. First, it asserts that agreements have been made relating to future improvements to the Central Business District and surrounding infrastructure; this just is not true. Second, no mention is made of the various review and approval processes which would be required for financial assistance if a TIF were established."

    Their assessment of the "inaccuracies" are themselves inaccurate. Resolution 62 is an agreement relating to future improvements in the CBD.

    Resolution 62 can be found here: http://www.riversideinfo.org/wp-content/uploads/Resolution62.pdf

    Under the last "Whereas" on page one, it says this is a "formal agreement." The document also says that if the TIF passes, the village board believes that certain costs of the Arcade building renovation are TIF eligible and will be considered for TIF inclusion "and/or other appropriate economic development programs...to induce the quality of the site [Arcade Building]."

    Agreement? Check.
    Relating to future improvements in the CBD? Check.

    Nothing inaccurate here.

    Regarding the second point, I'm not sure how not mentioning the "various review and approval processes which would be required for financial assistance if a TIF were established" is relevant when Resolution 62 says that "the corporate authorities have reviewed the conditions of the site [Arcade Building] and have reason to believe that the cost of the necessary public improvements, site preparation costs, and certain other costs to be incurred may qualify for Tax Increment Financing..." I don't see any language in Resolution 62 that lays out the various review and approval processes.

    "Let's just remember that dialogue about how to finance improvements to our community always be conducted with integrity, respect and honesty."

    Yes, I certainly hope that a certain board member who dressed down a commission member at the last public meeting keeps that advice in mind, too.

    - Mark D. Shevitz

    Posted Tuesday Mar 27, 2007 18:18 #
  4. Tim
    Member

    With only the text presented above, I am wondering if it may be misleading to call the flier inaccurate. This may stem from misunderstanding and confusion on the part of our elected officials, some of whom believe that there is this "Olmstedian Fundamentalist Creationsist" cult that is out to get them.

    Perhaps a little late night read may remedy this situation, Trustees are welcome to join the book of the day club if they have the time:

    http://www.pambytes.com/poe/stories/heart.html

    Posted Tuesday Mar 27, 2007 20:07 #
  5. corbi328
    Member

    Of course it's inaccurate. A better word to describe it would be misleading. Of course that was the intent of the flyer. To create fear and dissension by presenting half truths as fact. Not surprising when you consider the source. After all it was one of the founders of this site that said something to this effect, "what do you expect, I am against the TIF. I am not going to present evidence that sheds a positive light on TIFs". Folks, the end does not justify the means.

    Posted Tuesday Mar 27, 2007 22:21 #
  6. MikeT
    Member

    I don't see anything inaccurate or misleading in the flier. The other objection not already rebutted is the LACK of certain information in the flyer.

    Response: The flyer was speaking on one particular item, the monies promised to a developer if the tif were to be establishd. period. no further questions at this time, your honor.

    There are many things that can be said on the TIF in general, that are a part of the TIF. See this forum. what are we at, 3600 posts? The absence of some aspect of the TIF is not a sin of omission, but simply out of scope of the flyer.

    One of the problems of the TIF proposal is its complexity, it's number of moving parts. It is good to establish one thing at a time in order to get better understanding.

    .

    The Tell Tale Petunia
    lies moldering under the third plank in Room 4
    directly under Trustee Smith's
    microphone.

    Some say, at night, it cries.

    Give me that old time religion.

    Posted Wednesday Mar 28, 2007 01:38 #
  7. MDS
    Member

    corbi328:

    "Of course it's inaccurate. A better word to describe it would be misleading."

    What exactly in the flyer do you find inaccurate or misleading? What do you see in there that is not factual? Please point out these "half-truths" that you're so sure are in there.

    The only thing inaccurate is the village board's past responses to "what are you going to do with the TIF money?" The answer has always been "infrastructure" or "we don't know specifics yet." But all this time, since September, they've known that they passed a resolution that would likely include the Arcade Building renovation in the TIF.

    - Mark D. Shevitz

    Posted Wednesday Mar 28, 2007 06:41 #
  8. KimJ
    Member

    "After all it was one of the founders of this site that said something to this effect, "what do you expect, I am against the TIF. I am not going to present evidence that sheds a positive light on TIFs". Folks, the end does not justify the means."

    Corbi,

    I assume you are quoting me, as the co-founder does not post on forum.
    Obviously I am not for this TIF, but I would like to know where you pulled this quote, as I believe you made it up. Please don't put things in quotes when they are not quotes, that could be misleading.

    Also, you must remember that I started a pro-TIF thread for you because you couldn't be bothered. There was only one response, and the thread died, from lack of pro-TIF information, I suppose.

    http://www.riversideinfo.org/forum/topic.php?id=114&page&replies=2

    Posted Wednesday Mar 28, 2007 08:21 #
  9. spatny
    Member

    Talk about inaccuracies, what about the lack of candor on the part of the Village in denying to say what they have already spent on this mess. I remember when they were winding up the meetings on the TOD - you remember that - the "basis document" for the TIF workshops that was roundly rejected as an appropriate and comprehensive plan. The consulants, operating under their TOD hat said it would be about $30,000 to do a TIF, and now they have already been paid over $80,000 and are looking for more - maybe more than twic that amount if they do hat the EDC wants and include the schools. And that does not include the lawyers, the engineers, the money spent of the workshops and Rtail 1-2-3 and all the rest. The Village is not the DOD and can't take money from park maintenance and police pensions to pay for this garbage. If we ever manage to find out how much has been wasted on the B2 zoning (which did not protect the many from the VC and won't save us from more of the same if this TIF thing ever starts), the TOD and now this TIF mess the voters will be astounded. Maybe the Trustees should all put their "educated guesstimates" of this total on the record so that we can see how much they know about what they are doing with the taxpayer's money. The two that are the farthest off have to resign.

    Posted Wednesday Mar 28, 2007 09:11 #
  10. Catherine
    Member

    "In closing, we would hope that as development efforts move forward, we all remember the responsibilities that accompany our status as a National Historic Landmark, serving as stewards and as an example to communities everywhere.

    We do, however, think that our stewardship extends to the manner in which we communicate amongst each other—”the manner in which we voice our opinions—”and the manner in which we disagree with each other. Honesty and integrity need to remain part of that process and we all need to do our best to not skew information for the sake of supporting one opinion or another. Healthy dialogue and disagreement produce good things—“and, Riverside is an example of that. Let's just remember that dialogue about how to finance improvements to our community always be conducted with integrity, respect and honesty. "

    This from the man who allows Trustee Smith to insult and yell at opponents of the TIF and the Landscape Advisory Commission. Is he implying WE lack honesty and integrity? Why do they refuse the release the financial information of how much has been spent on which companies in the course of this fiasco? Dialogue. Wiaduck has never stated an opinion one way or the other, and has engaged in no public dialogue. What sickening hypocrisy.

    This from the man who allows Trustee Smith to insult and yell at opponents of the TIF and the Landscape Advisory Commission. Is he implying WE lack honesty and integrity? Why do they refuse the release the financial information of how much has been spent on which companies in the course of this fiasco? Dialogue. Wiaduck has never stated an opinion one way or the other, and has engaged in no public dialogue. What sickening hypocrisy.

    Posted Wednesday Mar 28, 2007 09:12 #

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