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  1. spatny
    Member

    This just in:

    BREAKING NEWS: La Grange board violated Open Meetings Act: Attorney General

    By Joe Sinopoli, jsinopoli@mysuburbanlife.com
    La Grange Suburban Life
    Thu Jul 03, 2008, 09:58 AM CDT
    La Grange, IL -
    The Attorney General's Office has determined the La Grange Village Board may have violated the Open Meeting Act when it called for a closed session April 21 to discuss the purchase of the La Grange Theatre.

    In a letter dated July 2 to Village Attorney Mark Burkland, assistant public access counselor Amanda Lundeen stated that discussions may have exceeded the scope of the exception cited by Burkland in a reply to a request for more information by Lundeen.

    As result, Lundeen has asked Burkland to provide the minutes and any recordings taken from the April 21 meeting.

    Posted Thursday Jul 3, 2008 13:22 #
  2. spatny
    Member

    July 7th - from the Sub Life:

    La Grange, IL -
    The Illinois attorney general's office has determined the La Grange Village Board may have violated the Open Meeting Act when it called for a closed session April 21 to discuss the purchase of the La Grange Theatre.

    In a letter dated July 2 to village attorney Mark Burkland, assistant public access counselor Amanda Lundeen said discussions may have exceeded the scope of the exception cited by Burkland. Lundeen wrote the letter to request more information from the village on the meeting.

    According to the letter, “while the financial and commercial status of the theater in the closed meeting may ultimately factor into the Board's decision-making process, it does not appear the presentation of such information to the Board constitutes part of the Board's process of deciding whether and on what terms to acquire a particular parcel of real property.—

    As a result, Lundeen has asked Burkland to provide the minutes and any recordings taken from the April 21 meeting.

    Under the Open Meetings Act, a public body may call for a closed session specifically to discuss the purchase of property. At question is whether the La Grange Village Board was at a point to actually begin discussions on purchasing the property.

    Burkland said June 30 he was “completely comfortable— and confident that discussions at the meeting were within the legal parameters for holding a closed session.

    Village Trustee James Palermo cast the only vote against going into the closed session based on his assertion that the real topic of discussion was the financial situation of theater owners John Rott and David Rizner and not the purchase of the theater.

    Palermo said Monday he had anticipated the board would be discussing issues other than the purchase of the theater.

    “I'm not a lawyer, but it sure seemed we were doing more than what we were requesting under the Open Meetings Act,— Palermo said.

    Palermo said he did not know if it would be necessary to call for a closed session for discussions regarding the theater in the future.

    Brookfield resident Tom Rae, who filed the original complaint with the attorney general's office based on Palermo's assertion the closed meeting was not legal, said he was pleased with the office's response and the outcome.

    “For whatever reason, some elected officials find it attractive to conduct public business out of the public view,— said Rae, publisher of a news Web site. “Sometimes you have to wonder: Are they just sometimes being stupid, or are they arrogant?—

    Posted Monday Jul 7, 2008 18:31 #
  3. spatny
    Member

    Note what Trustee Palermo says above about "doing more than we were requesting". This could be important for us when our Board starts in to promote PUDs. Of course, he's not a lawyer and ours are - mostly. Maybe that's the difference in why we see tings so differently. Lawyers don't rent a space, stock it with goods and people, advertise and then pay rent and all the rest and try and make a living. Entrepreneurs do that. Hence, perhaps, in how we see things.

    Posted Monday Jul 7, 2008 22:15 #
  4. MikeT
    Member

    the brookfield person said above--

    “For whatever reason, some elected officials find it attractive to conduct public business out of the public view,— said Rae, publisher of a news Web site. “Sometimes you have to wonder: Are they just sometimes being stupid, or are they arrogant?—

    I believe the trustees were doing what it easiest and practical. Democracy can be messy and slow. Your case has to be made persuasively to the public. From the Pharoahs to the Kings to the Mayor Daleys (see, for example, the many TIFs in Chicago that were carried out without the public's knowledge by and large and the unilateral action at Meigs Field), it is so much easier to have a centralization of power that is secret and oblivious to the public's concerns. Stupid of the process, incapable of making a good case to the public, and a good dose of arrogance all play in such unilateral covert actions.

    That first July 4th and the events thereafter during the constitutional convention proposed a historic experiment in human governance: government of, by, and for the people (vs autocratic rule by one or a few that had thus far been THE RULE everywhere on earth it seems).

    You might say that those Lagrange trustees have a little Ramses in them... :)

    Posted Monday Jul 7, 2008 23:54 #

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