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What Can We Do to Protect Riverside Home Values?

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  1. spatny
    Member

    24% of the mortgages in the U.S. are "upside-down." So prices will continue to sink - probably another 10-15%. The charts and Case-Schiller show that. Unemployment, a traditionally lagging indicator of the economy is probably still rising. Trustee Scully suggested that Riverside probably has at least 10% unemployment or underemployment. Here's an interesting map that shows how unemployment has risen. Click on it and watch...

    http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html

    Posted Tuesday Mar 2, 2010 16:47 #
  2. spatny
    Member

    Not much. News is bad on new home sales too.

    The number of buyers who agreed to purchase previously occupied homes fell sharply in January, a sign that demand for housing is sinking this winter, especially after stormy weather hit much of the country.

    The National Association of Realtors says its seasonally adjusted index of sales agreements fell 7.6 percent from December to a January reading of 90.4. It was the lowest reading since last April.

    Economists surveyed by Thomson Reuters had expected the index would rise to 97.6. The index is considered a barometer for future sales because typically there is a one- to two- month lag between a signed sales contract and a completed deal. A reading of 100 is equal to the average level of sales activity in 2001, when the index started.

    Posted Thursday Mar 4, 2010 14:10 #
  3. spatny
    Member

    Jan. 23rd reporting - Illinois unemployment at 10.1% - up 1.3% from a year ago. Home price index down 8.5% from a year earlier. Commercial real estate is now on the burner - a lot of loans will reset in the 2nd quarter. I saw Alexi G. talking about his family's bank yesterday and how badly they have been hit by this. Small community lenders that did biz loans for strip malls and office space will be crunched as the number of vacancies multiplies. Bad Biz kills the demand for houses and depresses prices.

    I know that you know all this, but it is amazing to met to see how the have/have not gap is widening.

    I'm tired of hearing that old saw about "it's small businesses that create jobs." Not entirely. I think it's larger businesses that place orders with myriad small(er) companies to make parts that in turn needed nearby delivery companies and lunchrooms and stores and office space for other small businesses that create jobs. I read this today in one of my old car mags:
    Fordism was a system of volume production and volume consumption. Fordism combined mass production - building large volumes of cars - with mass consumption - making the price inexpensive so more could afford them - to produce economic growth and widespread material advancement for all.

    Henry did this by introducing the Model T, a simple yet high quality car with such a low price that it was affordable to a broad segment of the population.It sold in large volumes which kept the price down. Then Ford went further, utilizing new manufacturing techniques which reduced costs even further and helped to bring the price even lower. He was thus able to pay his workers a decent wage and thus made consumers out of them, increasing the demand for his car. Soon workers on the factory floor could buy one of the cars they made, and homes, and all kinds of consumer goods and send their kids to school.

    Well we are still getting cheap (and cheaper_ goods to buy, but they aren't made here, so there are not the number of good manufacturing jobs to support better wages and lifestyle. And what we have to spend is going overseas. We are left selling each other insurance and delivering pizzas. People want more but can't earn the dough to support what they already have, and many are being dragged down by upkeep and taxes. Of course, they willingly signed on for the debt because "real estate always goes up" and things were always going to get better.

    The Model T was an entry level car, simple, inexpensive, affordable. It was the all-time best seller. The only car to challenge that was the VW, which was much the same. Now, companies like Hyundai and Kia produce very slick cars that are worlds apart from the above, but still cheaper than most of the others. Obviously they learned something we didn't.

    Posted Thursday Mar 4, 2010 14:20 #
  4. spatny
    Member

    Paul Krugman wrote:

    It’s crucial to realize that the trillion dollars’ worth of goods and services we could have produced this year, but won’t, is a loss we’ll never make up. And that doesn’t count the suffering and damage to our future inflicted by the non-monetary costs of mass long-term unemployment.

    And yet, the prevailing sentiment in Washington and other centers of power is that we’ve done enough, and that it’s time to start pulling back — to normalize monetary policy, tighten our fiscal belts. Policymakers are congratulating themselves for avoiding total collapse, when they should be berating themselves for failing to engineer recovery.

    It’s tragic.

    Actually, it's worse than tragic. It will be, in our lifetimes and probaly in the lifetimes of those over forty, irreversible. Milton Friedman and Alan Greenspan and the the pols that abetted their rise to preeminence in fiscal and monetary policy have seen to that. Think about that as you entertain your kids in the back seat with dual DVD players... more technology invented here but never manufactured here.

    Posted Thursday Mar 4, 2010 17:15 #
  5. ChrisHajer
    Member

    There was an interesting column in Newsweek last week entitled "Defusing the Debt Bomb, It can be done, here's how" by Fareed Zakaria:

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/234277

    1. Adopt a VAT and cut income tax rates somewhat to compensate (eliminate income taxes for those earning less than $100K/yr [90% of households] and cut the top tax rate to 25%)
    2. End subsidies for home ownership, healthcare and agriculture
    3. Make sensible changes to entitlements (raise retirement age, tie increases in benefits to rises in inflation, not wages)

    There are a lot more details in the actual column, and as always the comments are pretty good (well, some of them are.) I just looked and there is a blog/forum with columns as well. Confusing.

    Posted Thursday Mar 4, 2010 17:54 #
  6. spatny
    Member

    We will have a VAT - as do most developed countries. Of course it will be a Bolshevik plot to some...

    Posted Thursday Mar 4, 2010 21:51 #
  7. Kelly
    Member

    In June 09 there were 106 houses on the market (sales plus foreclosures), today there are 138. I can't believe there are almost as many homes in foreclosure today (60) than were for sale in June 2009 (63).

    Does anyone know what our current "housing stock" is? How many homes and condos are there in Riverside?

    Posted Tuesday Mar 23, 2010 20:59 #
  8. anonymous
    Member

    And RB thinks they will pass a referendum to raise our taxes?

    Posted Tuesday Mar 23, 2010 23:52 #
  9. corbi296
    Member

    The surest way to see our home values erode is if we go in a bunker mentality and decide not to support our schools AND our Village. This is why I ultimately voted to approve the failed tax referendum for the village and why I will likely support a modest referendum for the HS.

    I do draw a distinction between the two taxing bodies. In the Village's case, it is clear from looking at our tax bills that their share of our tax dollars has dramitically eroded over the last 10-20 years. To the credit of our previous boards, they did everything they could to keep operating expenses down while using good judgement to prioritize capital improvement dollars. However we are now at a point where we are hitting bone and are forced to defer critical capital improvements that effect the look of our village and will cost more to fix in the long run. There is no doubt that if we continue to neglect the needs of our Village, our long term property values will suffer permanently.

    In the case of RB and district 96, I do think the aministrators and the boards could have managed their budgets better. I will be the first to admit that I am not a value shopper when it comes to education. I am willing to spend as much as it takes as long as that marginal expenditure improves student learning and achievement even marginally. The world is becoming a very competitive place and we owe it to our kids to give them every advantage they can get. That being said, I feel the districts have spent money on luxuries (i.e. District 96 laptop initiative) that I am not convinced improve student learning and achievement. In addition, I also agree that teacher saleries and benefits have become extremely generous and are on a growth path that is not sustainable. Good schools and teachers are necessary to protect our property values and therefore I am inclined to support them further but the teachers and the administrators need to be willing to do their part.

    Posted Wednesday Mar 24, 2010 07:30 #
  10. spatny
    Member

    Breaking...

    "Sales of newly built U.S. single-family homes fell for a fourth straight month to a record low in February, a government report showed on Wednesday, heightening fears of renewed weakness in the housing market.

    The Commerce Department said sales fell 2.2 percent to a 308,000 unit annual rate from an upwardly revised 315,000 units in January."

    Posted Wednesday Mar 24, 2010 09:57 #

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